This latest alternate with a gentleman on the Historical past Channel discussion board is simply in time for Thanksgiving Day…
The twelve tribes themselves usually are not European in origin
The Twelve Tribes of Israel – the Anglo-Saxons and white peoples of Northwestern Europe – are Israelite in origin. We are the so-called “Misplaced Ten Tribes.” We we taken captive by the Assyrians and later, as prophesied, migrated north and west into Europe and King David’s dynasty continues within the Sceptered Isle.
Of the 12,000 from every tribe to be taken on judgement day, what number of do you suppose might be of combined blood?
In the event that they’re so combined the Holy Spirit would not have impressed John to jot down particularly of the distinctive tribes of Israel. They’re clearly not “combined” sufficient to disqualify them from being thought of, in God’s eyes, this or that particular tribe of Israel. Undoubtedly we’ve got married amongst ourselves, but nonetheless this or that tribe dominates in our ancestry, having sifted by way of varied international locations (we will say we’re English, Irish, Dutch) however nonetheless ISRAELITE.
When Revelations was written the writer most likely had no concept that the Jews would have dispersed throughout the globe as they’ve or intermarried as they’ve with different peoples
John was a prophet and the Holy Spirit undoubtedly impressed him to know the opposite prophecies within the Legislation and the Prophets that clearly foretold the attain and enlargement of all Twelve Tribes to the far ends of the Earth – not simply the Jews! The Jews are solely a small a part of the large household of Jacob-Israel.
It is written in Amos that we (the Northern 10-tribed Kingdom of Israel) would migrate, sift by way of the nations, and but not lose our id (so far as our ethnic make-up is worried, our fundamental DNA).
assuming that you’re a Gentile
God’s mercy extends to all peoples, though His plan requires the Jew (and Israelites) first after which the Gentiles. God has known as our peoples, the Jews and the Joes, Israelites, to in the end turn out to be His Servant Nation to bless all nations.
I’m a Joe (descended from Joseph/Anglo-Saxon heritage), in addition to a Jew, scions of King David, as our household goes again to the British and Scottish Royal Households. I am additionally a descendant of two Mayflower Pilgrims, John and Priscilla Alden, and collateral descendant of three American presidents.
[The Scripture] would not apply to America as a result of we got nothing. We TOOK all the pieces we’ve got from the natives
The USA was given primarily to the descendants of Joseph and the opposite Northern tribes of Israel, with some Jews residing amongst us (despite the fact that God has given them a Jewish Homeland). Identical to historic Israel needed to be keen to combat to safe their inheritance, so did we. Generally we have been extra honorable than others, similar to Jacob with Esau, however regardless Manifest Future was to be and was fulfilled in us. We did not take from the natives because it wasn’t theirs to start with – it belongs to our Nice Creator God and to whomsoever He provides it, as is His divine prerogative.
The varied natives took from one another and had a violent historical past in direction of totally different tribes and have been carried away with their uncooked paganism. Some have been extra superior than others.
10 “So it shall be, when the LORD your God brings you into the land of which He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to offer you massive and delightful cities which you didn’t construct, 11 homes stuffed with all good issues, which you didn’t fill, hewn-out wells which you didn’t dig, vineyards and olive timber which you didn’t plant–when you’ve eaten and are full– 12 then beware, lest you overlook the LORD…
we constructed the cities, invented our devices and issues, constructed a gargantuan financial system, paved the roads, assembled an enormous army, and many others. all by ourselves. God had nothing to do with these items
God works in and thru and for folks on the identical time. He warned us to not develop such an unhealthy and pompous angle of vainly imagining we did all these items with out His assist and inspiration, even giving us the well being to perform nice issues. God has blessed our efforts. It is true that God helps those that assist themselves. The “Protestant work ethic” is a biblical work ethic.
9 a land by which you’ll eat bread with out shortage, by which you’ll lack nothing; a land whose stones are iron and out of whose hills you possibly can dig copper. 10 When you’ve eaten and are full, then you definitely shall bless the LORD your God for the great land which He has given you.
11 “Beware that you don’t overlook the LORD your God by not conserving His commandments, His judgments, and His statutes which I command you at the moment, 12 lest–when you’ve eaten and are full, and have constructed stunning homes and dwell in them; 13 and when your herds and your flocks multiply, and your silver and your gold are multiplied, and all that you’ve got is multiplied; 14 when your coronary heart is lifted up, and also you overlook the LORD your God…17 then you definitely say in your coronary heart, ‘My energy and the may of my hand have gained me this wealth.’
18 “And also you shall bear in mind the LORD your God, for it’s He who provides you energy to get wealth, that He could set up His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it’s this present day. 19 Then it shall be, in case you by any means overlook the LORD your God, and observe different gods, and serve them and worship them, I testify towards you this present day that you simply shall certainly perish. 20 Because the nations which the LORD destroys earlier than you, so that you shall perish, as a result of you wouldn’t be obedient to the voice of the LORD your God.
As Abraham Lincoln warned, he mentioned we had forgotten our Nice God and inspired all to repent and pray that God may save our nation. We have been spared that God may fulfill His many prophecies, His great guarantees to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob concerning the peace and prosperity of their descendants due to ABRAHAM’S OBEDIENCE. However God has given us these many issues and great years and we’ve got forgotten him as self-made women and men who vainly think about we do not want God and that is all our doing, the work of our palms, so God – who controls the climate – will strip these items out of our palms and present us how we’re at His mercy to humble us and produce us again to Him and remind us to maintain His commandments, His holy Sabbath and biblical festivals, the “Jewish holidays,” and reject the alternative theology and pagan holidays of bloody Rome!
If we’ve got god to thank for the invention of the airplane then we’ve got him to thank for 9/11.
That is simply plain ridiculous. What we do with a present is our duty. Every little thing has the potential to be a blessing or a curse. God provides us free ethical company to find out what we’ll for ourselves, what we’ll do with what we have been given: whether or not we’ll squander our inheritance or use it correctly, with an angle of gratitude and loving obedience.
I see you conveniently didn’t tackle the opposite verse I quoted, verse 24 which says:
1. Behold, the LORD makes the earth empty, He makes it waste, and turns it the wrong way up, and scatters overseas its inhabitants.
2. And it shall be, that as it’s with the folks, so with the priest; as it’s with the servant, so along with his grasp; as it’s with the maid, so along with her mistress; as it’s with the customer, so with the vendor; as it’s with the lender, so with the borrower; as it’s with the taker of usury, so with the payer of usury to him.
3. The land shall be completely emptied, and completely spoiled: for the LORD has spoken this phrase. four The earth mourns and fades away, the world languishes and fades away, the haughty folks of the earth languish.
13. When this occurs: within the midst of the land among the many folks, it shall be because the shaking of an olive tree, and just like the gleaning grapes when the classic is completed. 14 They shall raise up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the ocean. 15 Wherefore glorify you the LORD within the fires, even the identify of the LORD God of Israel within the isles of the ocean. 16. From the furthermost a part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. However I mentioned, My leanness, my leanness, woe to me! the treacherous sellers have dealt treacherously; sure, the treacherous sellers have dealt very treacherously. 17 Concern, and the pit, and the snare, are upon you, O inhabitant of the earth. 18 And it shall be, that he who flees from the noise of the concern shall fall into the pit; and he who comes up out of the midst of the pit shall be caught within the snare: for the home windows from on excessive are open, and the foundations of the earth shake. 19 The earth is totally damaged down, the earth is totally dissolved, the earth is exceedingly moved. 20 The earth shall reel from side to side like a drunkard, and shall be eliminated like a cottage; and its transgression shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and never rise once more.
These verses prophesy destruction of all the pieces and all people which doesn’t jibe with what you are telling me.
I didn’t ignore it and I did tackle it. Mankind will get to the purpose of no return: apart from divine intervention no flesh could be saved alive, no human being would stay, simply as Yeshua and the Prophets foretold. Inside that Scripture it reveals survivors who’re praising God, which I’ve highlighted.
21 For then there might be nice tribulation [Time of Jacob’s Trouble], similar to has not been for the reason that starting of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except these days have been shortened, no flesh could be saved; however for the elect’s sake [the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob] these days might be shortened.
9 Except the LORD of hosts
Had left to us a really small remnant,
We might have turn out to be like Sodom,
We might have been made like Gomorrah.
1 However now, thus says the LORD, who created you, O Jacob,
And He who shaped you, O Israel:
” Concern not, for I’ve redeemed you;
I’ve known as you by your identify;
You might be Mine.
2 Whenever you go by way of the waters, I might be with you;
And thru the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
Whenever you stroll by way of the hearth, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.
Three For I’m the LORD your God,
The Holy Considered one of Israel, your Savior;
I gave Egypt in your ransom,
Ethiopia and Seba in your home.
God at all times saves a remnant to maintain His promise alive to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that He could be their God and the God of their descendants (which implies they have to at all times have some descendants). This GOOD NEWS is why the primary chapter of Past Babylon: Europe’s Rise and Fall is appropriately known as, “Survival Assured!”